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charmed quark	Nov-17-05, 10:39 AM (CMT)
"Nausea, Ginger and MythBusters"
On last nights MythBusters episode, they did a test of over-the-counter anti-nausea remedies. They built a device that they put two of their team members into that induced "sea sickness" to the point of vomiting after about 10-20 minutes. They then tested the two subjects with: 1.An under the tongue spray ( didn't catch what it was, I think it was a homeopathic remedy) 2. An set of acupressure wrist bands 3. A wrist worn TEMS electrical stimulator 4. A placebo 5. Ginger Pills 6. And the standard OTC remedy ( didn't say which, prob. Dramamine). The first 3 had absolutely no effect on the two. The placebo seemed to work pretty well on one subject but not at all on the other. Ginger worked very well on both subjects - no nausea whatsoever for both. The standard OTC work somewhat for both. One felt somewhat nauseous but didn't throw up. The other felt fine ( the same one who got the good placebo effect). And both were very dopey from the OTC. So ginger was the obvious superior remedy. Something I really agree with. I use it all the time for my migraine nausea. For me, it seems to work better than even the prescription anti-nauseas I've been giver and with almost no side effects. -CQ
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RE: Nausea, Ginger and MythBusters, cheermom, Nov-17-05, (1) RE: Nausea, Ginger and MythBusters, charmed quark, Nov-17-05, (2) RE: Nausea, Ginger and MythBusters, eskeen, Nov-17-05, (3) RE: Nausea, Ginger and MythBusters, shelllauren, Nov-17-05, (4) RE: Nausea, Ginger and MythBusters, Richard, Nov-17-05, (5) RE: Nausea, Ginger and MythBusters, Bure, Nov-21-05, (10) RE: Nausea, and Ginger, Mule Kick, Nov-19-05, (6) RE: Nausea, and Ginger, charmed quark, Nov-20-05, (7) RE: Nausea, and Ginger, charmed quark, Nov-20-05, (8) RE: Nausea, and Ginger, Mule Kick, Nov-21-05, (11) RE: Nausea, and Ginger, Mule Kick, Nov-21-05, (12) RE: Nausea, and Ginger, charmed quark, Nov-21-05, (13) RE: Nausea, Ginger and MythBusters, TeriRobert, Nov-20-05, (9) RE: Nausea, Ginger and MythBusters, crt, Nov-21-05, (14) Ginger Ice Cream, Mule Kick, Dec-07-05, (15) RE: Ginger Ice Cream, cheermom, Dec-07-05, (16) RE: Ginger Ice Cream, crt, Dec-07-05, (17) RE: Ginger Ice Cream, Mule Kick, Dec-07-05, (18) RE: Ginger Ice Cream, LynelleH, Dec-07-05, (19) Ginger, ExportMgr, Dec-08-05, (20)

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cheermom	Nov-17-05, 10:45 AM (CMT)
1. "RE: Nausea, Ginger and MythBusters"
LAST EDITED ON Nov-17-05 AT 10:46 AM (CMT) Another thing that works is the heavy syrup from fruit cocktail. It really does help settle the stomach. I can't honestly say it will stop the vomiting once that's started, though. Ginger ale makes me vomit, yet ginger is supposed to work. Can you buy ginger supplements? LOL I just reread your post...I see I can. My brain is mush sometimes! Linda
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	charmed quark	Nov-17-05, 11:45 AM (CMT)
	2. "RE: Nausea, Ginger and MythBusters"
	Ginger Ale has very little ginger in it. You can sometimes find "ginger beer" in the store and this does have enough ginger to work. But I usually just make ginger tea from fresh ginger root or chew candied ginger. Ginger Altoids seem to have enough ginger int hem to work, too. Never tried ginger pills myself. -CQ
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eskeen	Nov-17-05, 12:12 PM (CMT)
3. "RE: Nausea, Ginger and MythBusters"
This is VERY interesting! Thanks for the 'synopsis'/results of the show and whatnot. I had seen VERY briefly a preview of what the show was going to be about, but missed the description--I've only seen maybe 3-4 of these MythBusters. They're interesting, to say the least--LOL. I've used OTC antinausea/motion sickness medications (Bonine and Dramamine) LOTS of times--for motion sickness related to car riding (I get it VERY bad!! <cringes>). I've also had prescription medication (Antivert--but it's also known as Bonamine/Bonine/Dramamine/Dramamine II, etc.---but I was prescribed the generic 'meclizine' (25mg)), which I was prescribed April 6 from my family physician when I had started having SEVERE dizziness/vertigo (and other symptoms, but the dizziness was one of the primary/worrisome symptoms)--but I knew what it was due to and also knew the medication wouldn't help but was DESPERATE. It was due to shunt malfunction, which I wound up having my initial surgery April 20. I had started having dizziness March 30 (the day after getting a new pair of contacts). During this time/all of this, I also 'invested' in a pair of sea-sickness wristbands---Sea-Band 'Sea Band' anti-nausea wristbands. They can be put on before or after nausea sets in/occurs. They're hospital-recommended too. I thought they were a little pricey, but they help (I still use them because I'm STILL a 'motion-sickness' person as well as I still get nauseous for various reasons---need we say more?). It's a little funny though because they leave the little indentations in my wrists, but I like them (the wristbands--LOL)... Here's a link to CVS's site about them (I bought mine from Eckerds, and I THINK they were just a *tad* bit cheaper, but I may be wrong): http://www.cvs.com/CVSApp/cvs/gateway/detail?prodid=109278&previousURI=/CVSApp/cvs/gateway/search?ActiveCat=499^Query=wristbands Erin P.S. I also used the Bonine/Dramamine before I went to my FP and got the meclizine prescription (thinking the OTC would help). The prescription helped MORE though (than the OTC)--at least I THINK it did--there again, I was EXTREMELY desperate at that point...but I knew it was a matter of time before having to just decide to go to the hospital and go from there...which, of course, I ultimately did (and even then...). 22y/o "former" 30 wker(2#2oz., 10 1/4" long), Grade III IVH(brain bleed), hydrocephalus as a result, 12 surgeries, last revision 4/20/05, MIGRAINES dx'd 5/13/05--as result of the April surgery *AND* one I had May 10---CDHs dx'd 10/12/05, Dad passed away 10/3/03 @ 48y/o...
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shelllauren	Nov-17-05, 03:09 PM (CMT)
4. "RE: Nausea, Ginger and MythBusters"
I work in a scuba environment and my co-worker was talking about this show a little while ago. We often advise ginger for seasickness but the scopalamine patch works better. I've not seen it but it sounds like an interesting show. Shelly
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	Richard	Nov-17-05, 03:51 PM (CMT)
	5. "RE: Nausea, Ginger and MythBusters"
	I wonder if the ginger you eat with sushi and sashi would be effective ... it certainly is tasty. Hang In There! Tieni Duro! Non Mollare! Tiens Bon! Ne Laches Pas! Richard
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	Bure	Nov-21-05, 03:17 AM (CMT)
	10. "RE: Nausea, Ginger and MythBusters"
	I think I’ve read that the form of ginger doesn’t matter, so pickled (like for sushi) ginger is just as good as candied ginger. Any excuse to eat ginger and ginger cookies.
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Mule Kick	Nov-19-05, 04:30 AM (CMT)
6. "RE: Nausea, and Ginger"
Since ginger helps to protect against nausea; I decided to post my favorite ginger cookie recipe. These cookies are very gingery and more potent than any store bought ginger snaps. See my post Subject: Ginger Cookie Recipe; on the Miscellaneous Forum. Also, I read on a drug interaction website, that ginger shows some calcium channel blocking activity; And that people taking calcium channel blockers, like verapamil, should avoid using ginger. I depend on candied ginger, or these cookies, for nausea relief; but now, my doctor has me on verapamil. What am I to do? Mule Kick
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	charmed quark	Nov-20-05, 09:10 AM (CMT)
	7. "RE: Nausea, and Ginger"
	Are you sure about this? The only interaction I've ever seen noted about ginger is that it is a blood thinner and could be a problem if you are already taking a strong blood thinner. http://www.itmonline.org/arts/herbdrug2.htm Thanks for the cookie recipe. It sounds really good and I will make some for Thansgiving. I make my own candied ginger ( it's a byproduct of making ginger syrup) so I have plenty around. -CQ
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	charmed quark	Nov-20-05, 09:15 AM (CMT)
	8. "RE: Nausea, and Ginger"
	http://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/entrez/query.fcgi?cmd=Retrieve&db=PubMed&list_uids=15613983&dopt=Citation I found what you were talking about in the above link. Apparently ginger has a slight calcium channel blocking effect just like Verapamil, so if you were on a large dose of Verapamil, the ginger might make the effect too large. If you use a lot of ginger and this is a problem, couldn't you reduce the amount of Verapamil slightly?
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	Mule Kick	Nov-21-05, 07:13 AM (CMT)
	11. "RE: Nausea, and Ginger"
	LAST EDITED ON Nov-21-05 AT 07:32 AM (CMT) LAST EDITED ON Nov-21-05 AT 07:27 AM (CMT) The drug interaction site is at: http://www.drugdigest.org/DD/Interaction/InteractionResults?drug=&drugList=701&cD=4016&cD=701&dN=%22Ginger%22+%22Verapamil%22+ I am only on my second bottle of verapamil. I take 40mg three times a day, for a total of 120mg per day. My perscription is for a short acting generic tablet, that I split, crush half and take with applesauce, since I am unable to swallow the sustained release pill. I am worried that I must now avoid the ginger that I love so much. Mule Kick editing to try to get the URL to work
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	Mule Kick	Nov-21-05, 07:42 AM (CMT)
	12. "RE: Nausea, and Ginger"
	CQ The cookie recipe uses powdered ginger also known as ground ginger, a whole quater-pound of it. Mule Kick
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	charmed quark	Nov-21-05, 09:57 AM (CMT)
	13. "RE: Nausea, and Ginger"
	I saw that, what an incredible amount.
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TeriRobert	Nov-20-05, 10:34 AM (CMT)
9. "RE: Nausea, Ginger and MythBusters"
Interesting. Thanks for sharing! This explains why my nausea stops so quickly when I use GelStat Migraine, an OTC homeopathic Migraine abortive. It's a gel that you squirt under your tongue, hold it there for 60 seconds, then swallow and repeat in five minutes. When I was asked to test it, I was highly skeptical. Figured it would taste like crap and do nothing. I've been very pleasantly surprised. It doesn't taste bad, and it actually works sometimes if I take it early in a Migraine. They have a web site at http://www.gelstat.com, if you want to check it out. I can also make you an offer. If you'd like to try it, email me and give me your name and snail mail address, and I'll send you a box to try. No, I'm not affiliated with the company, but when I was doing the wristband project, they sponsored it. They also sent me cases of the product so I could send a box to everyone who ordered wristbands. So, if you'd like to try it, I'd be glad to send you a box. Then, if it works for you, you can print discount coupons from their site. Teri Robert Migraineur, writer, patient advocate HelpForHeadaches.com About Headaches and Migraine teri@helpforheadaches.com
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	crt	Nov-21-05, 12:33 PM (CMT)
	14. "RE: Nausea, Ginger and MythBusters"
	Does anyone have a recipe for ginger ice cream? I had some years ago at the Los Angeles Chinatown. It was fabulous. I've been looking for ginger ice cream ever since. BTW, I have several pilot friends that swear by ginger for airsickness. One of them even kept flying through most of her pregnancy and didn't have any stomach problems. Of course, a lot of that can be attributed to her excellent health and fitness, but part of it can be attributed to her fondness for ginger. I'm going to go check out that cookie recipe...
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	Mule Kick	Dec-07-05, 08:34 AM (CMT)
	15. "Ginger Ice Cream"
	crt I found a Ginger Ice Cream recipe for you, on page 344 of, The Melting Pot by Maria Gitin. I have NOT yet tried it, so I have no idea if it actually works; but it looks like it should be yummy. GINGER ICE CREAM 1 Tablespoon Unflavored Gelatin 3 Tablespoons Cold Water 1˝ Cup Milk (skim, low-fat, or whole) 1˝ Cup Evaporated Milk, Cream, or Half & Half 3/4 Cup Sugar 1 teaspoon Vanilla 4 Tablespoons finely chopped, Candied Ginger The richness of the ice cream will depend on what dairy products you choose. At first the ice cream will not taste gingery enough, but don't add more ginger -- the ice cream gets stronger as it stands. Soften the gelatin in cold water. Combine it with ˝ cup of milk and heat very gently til it dissolves. Combine the rest of the milk and/or cream with the remaining ingredients and blend in blender or beat well with an electric mixer. Stir in gelatin mixture and pour it all into a large ice cube tray or metal bread pan. Freeze til firm, about 2 hours in a healthy refrigerator. Then put the mixture in a bowl and beat til smooth and fluffy. Freeze again til firm. Makes 1 quart of ice cream. I hope this works for you. Mule Kick
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	cheermom	Dec-07-05, 03:02 PM (CMT)
	16. "RE: Ginger Ice Cream"
	Sounds yummy! I'm going to copy this recipe. My daughter said she had some ginger ice cream at work and loved it. I have never heard of it. Thanks, Linda
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	crt	Dec-07-05, 05:29 PM (CMT)
	17. "RE: Ginger Ice Cream"
	Thanks a bunch, MK! This sounds fantastic. I am looking forward to trying it. Chris
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	Mule Kick	Dec-07-05, 07:30 PM (CMT)
	18. "RE: Ginger Ice Cream"
	You are very welcome, crt and cheermom. I need to try this recipe myself. Mule Kick
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	LynelleH	Dec-07-05, 10:43 PM (CMT)
	19. "RE: Ginger Ice Cream"
	I saw that episode a week or 2 ago and it wanted to make me vomit. Their contraption was cruel (but an essential part of their experiment). On a non-migraine note: I sipped (and I mena SIPPED) ginger ale when experiencing morning-sickness. It worked. I also NIBBLED on ginger snap cookies. Again, it worked. Lynelle
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	ExportMgr	Dec-08-05, 08:12 AM (CMT)
	20. "Ginger"
	First of all, how brave were those people who agreed to be in this experiment!!! My husband has been known to take slices of fresh ginger, dip them in sugar and just eat 'em like that. For nausea. The other thing that really helps me when nauseous has been acupuncture wrist bands. They work on the same pressure points as Sea Bands, but there's a tiny little needle that pokes into that pressure point. It doesn't hurt (much) and definitely helps. Mary
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