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Meg06	Oct-28-06, 08:37 PM (CMT)
"Migraine Cure"
Hi Everyone! Dr. Dzugan's book "The Migraine Cure" should be out shortly. I think by the end of November if everything goes smoothly. I have been migraine free since December 17, 2005 (it's hard not to forget the last one). And I've been using immunorestoration since then. Please, please read the book when it comes out. Take it to your doctor. Talk to him/her about immunorestoration. And if they aren't willing to work with you, find someone who is. It was the best thing I've ever done for myself and that's saying a lot. Just wanted to post... Thanks for listening! ~Meg
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enigma	Oct-29-06, 10:00 AM (CMT)
1. "RE: Migraine Cure"
Is this something your insurance covers??? Laura
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	Meg06	Oct-29-06, 07:40 PM (CMT)
	7. "RE: Migraine Cure"
	Insurance may or may not cover it. You'd have to check with yours. Also, some compounding pharmacies don't take insurance so you'd have to check with them too. ~Meg
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jencee	Oct-29-06, 10:06 AM (CMT)
2. "Migraine cure?"
Meg, What exactly is the cure? Is it Immunorestoration? If so, what is Immunorestoration? Is that the same thing as the Bio-Identical hormone therapy? The was a thread started a couple of weeks ago about that - I think it was "AnnasMom" who started that thread. Where do you find a Doctor who will work with you for this type of treatment? Thanks, Jen
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	Anna's Mom	Oct-29-06, 12:13 PM (CMT)
	3. "RE: Migraine cure?"
	Congratulations, Meg! You can ask your particular insurance company if they have a contract with a compounding pharmacy. Bioidentical hormones are prescription drugs which are compounded at compounding pharmacies. Our large PPO insurance company has a contract with one (and only one) compounding pharmacy in another state that does mail order. I once got a $1,000 compounded med for my regular co-pay ($15.00) at this one and only pharmacy. But I had to "twist the arm" of my insurance company to learn this information. Whether or not the prescribing doctor takes your insurance, some do and some don't. The doctor close to us who prescribes bioidentical hormones takes most insurance. How to find these doctors? It takes searching. Cheryl
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minmaxman	Oct-29-06, 04:49 PM (CMT)
4. "RE: Migraine Cure"
Please tell me this isn't another one! If not,sorry. I did a 1 year search and only got this thread as the only result for Meg06. Sorry, but with so many scams and sales people coming here I am very skeptical about claimed "cures". Dana Always Take care and have fun! You employ your doctor. If they are not doing their job by helping you then fire them.
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	Bahman	Oct-29-06, 06:14 PM (CMT)
	5. "RE: Migraine Cure"
	I really don't want you think I'm out of line, Dana. I ask this question with all sincerity: Why do you focus on "the messenger" instead of looking at the "message?"
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	minmaxman	Oct-30-06, 05:46 PM (CMT)
	16. "RE: Migraine Cure/Bahman"
	No problem and I don't think you were out of line. We all have opinions. I did a name search because it is easy and yes I did read the message. Every time someone says the word "Cure" in the title or the contents I become skeptical. There are so many people here and many at the end of their rope that they may try anything and others know this. There are all kinds who prey on others in that postition and I don't want to see anyone get ripped off. About 8 or 10 times a year the scammers are here and if you looked at my post I said if I was wrong,I was sorry but I will not take it back because I care about the people here and I suffer right along with many. Dana Always Take care and have fun! You employ your doctor. If they are not doing their job by helping you then fire them.
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	Bahman	Oct-30-06, 07:26 PM (CMT)
	17. "RE: Migraine Cure/Bahman"
	I read your message, understood your position, and was going to move on. But then I noticed you had added my name to the title, and maybe that means you expect a response. OK, No one wants spammers and sales pitches. And everyone here should try to warn others of misrepresentaion of facts, misinformation, false claims, etc. But IMHO, that is best done by dissecting the issue and the claim.
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	Meg06	Oct-29-06, 07:35 PM (CMT)
	6. "RE: Migraine Cure"
	LAST EDITED ON Oct-29-06 AT 07:38 PM (CMT) Actually, I've posted a number of times before on this site. And for what I'm about to say this one will probably get removed too but here goes- Because I've posted before "pro other therapies other than pharmaceuticals" I think it was removed due to that. I also work for LifeExtension and have mentioned Le before so who knows? It could be that too. It's sad, but true. So, no, I'm not a scammer... I know what you're thinking though. There was a post on this board about 6 to 9 months ago about a guy who had a "cure" that you mixed with stuff from the fridge... But, no, I'm not like that. I don't get anything out of you doing this. I don't care who you work with. But there other options than Imitrex, etc. out there. Now, in response to immunorestoration: that has to do with targeting a person's therapy to that individual. For instance- why would different women with different symptoms get the same treatment??? It is done with speaking at length about that person's history- when they started getting their migraines, what they've tried in the past and what has or hasn't worked (even for a short time), medical background regarding hysterectomies, any traumas (especially to the neck or brain), etc. Considering I'm only 26 yrs. old mine was pretty short. The personal history info is also paired with blood tests. You get baseline numbers at the beginning and retest 3-4 months later. With follow ups done periodically after that. Also immunorestoration isn't just about hormones. I also take things like probiotics, magnesium, zinc and saw palmetto everyday in addition to my hormones. It;s about balancing the whole body. And for each person it may be the same initial regimen but the dosages can be widely varied. Everyone's different so everyone gets individual attention. For bioidentical hormones (the natural stuff by a compounding pharmacy- not things like premarin or prempro, etc) the scripts do have to be written by a doctor and some doctors are in fact more willing than others. My doctor in Florida is actually an endocrinologist but he knew nothing about bioidenticals. I basiclly had to tell him how to write the prescription. Since I work at LE, I had previously done my research on how to balance my hormones. Sorry this is a bit long, but should anyone have more questions, please let me know. Thanks, Meg
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	Bahman	Oct-29-06, 08:12 PM (CMT)
	8. "RE: Migraine Cure"
	OK, I'm going to add my 2 cents and wait for other comments. Before asking my question, I'd like to remind everyone that I seem to be the only one on this board who has successfully been treated (100%) with cayenne pepper. This is to emphacize that I am believing more and more everyday that people are SOOOOOOOOO different! Now, I'd like to ask you whether you believe your propposed "cure" can really work for everyone?
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	jencee	Oct-29-06, 09:41 PM (CMT)
	9. "RE: Migraine Cure"
	I really do want to look into this- I'm just afraid if I go to a Dr.- even one on the LEF recommeded website and ask about the "Migraine Cure" treatment plan that they won't know what the heck I'm talking about, since the book isn't out yet, so I'm wondering if I should wait and order the book first and then bring it in to the Doctor, so they can see what I'm talking about. I really think a big part of my problem may be hormonal- and no dr so far has really wanted to delve into that area yet, so I'm willing to go down a different route and try something different. Meg, I live in Florida too, If you know of any Drs. in my area that are already familiar with this protocol please let me know- feel free to e-mail me through me profile, if you'd like. All the best, Jen
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	petluv	Oct-30-06, 07:24 AM (CMT)
	10. "Cure for L.E.'s sagging bank account"
	This book will probably be on the shelves next to the ones by the scam artist Kevin Trudeau who also has so called natural cures for everything from A to Z.
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	MM	Oct-30-06, 09:03 AM (CMT)
	11. "RE: Cure for L.E.'s sagging bank account"
	So sad to give people false hope. We really are a bunch of guinea pigs! Boo hoo! MM
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	Bahman	Oct-30-06, 10:55 AM (CMT)
	12. "guina pigs"
	In a way people are guina pigs, especially those with difficult and chronic illnesses like migraine. All my life I've been trying different and sometimes "odd" treatments for my twin discomforts: migraine and stomach ulcer. You name it and I've tried it. In other words, I've been guina pig all my life. But, to paraphrase, "by myself and for myself." But fortunately no more (cross your fingers!). I accidentally found a supplement that treats both my problems. How? I don't know.
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	jencee	Oct-30-06, 12:33 PM (CMT)
	13. "RE: guina pigs"
	Bahman, Please can you tell me more about the Cayenne pepper treatment that helped your migraines? Do you take this as a supplement (capsules)? or are you eating them as a food? Also, please tell me how much you take (dose) and do you take this everyday as a preventative measure? Thanks so much! Jen
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	Bahman	Oct-30-06, 01:41 PM (CMT)
	14. "cayenne"
	Jen, I have written so many times about it in the past seven years that I have collected most of them in one file and am going to copy some of it below. I'm afraid some may be repetitious. Also all your questions may not be answered. So please ask away! ----------------------------------------------- Here is my story in a nutshell. I've suffered from ulcer and migraine for about 40 years. Neither has been VERY serious, but persistent. My migraine is not of the 'classical' type; i.e. severe and debiliating. Instead, it can be preveted by ordinary painkillers. But it is always waiting in the wings, so to speak. That means every day. My ulcer's only symptom has been 'pain.' Several years ago, I had several successful, but temporary, H. Pylori treatments. In this period, I noticed that when I was under antibiotic treatment, my headache episodes were less frequent. About 8 years ago, I came across acidophilus and started taking about one capsul a day, with great success for my ulcer and some good effect on my headache. Then a year later, I read about the effect of cayenne (red pepper) on migraine in the Los Angeles Times and started using it. It turned out to be a very effective preventive measure for my headaches. And surprisingly, I later discovered that I didn't need to take acidophilus anymore. In short, I've been free of stomach problems, and my migraine is well under control, for seven years now. This is anecdotal, but I've felt all along that my two problems had the same cause. I don't know what else to say now, but will be happy to answer your questions. ------------ Capsules (500mg) are available as supplements. I take an average of three capsules/day WITH FOOD. Once in a while when I want instantaneous effect to prevent an emerging headache, I swallow a pinch of the powder in a cup of water. In general, the amount of RP I take to prevent my headache seems to be enough to keep ulcer away. However, occasionally, when I feel early symptoms (feeling of hunger and gnawing in my stomach) I take a dose, and it works wonders! -------------------------------------------- I get the Spring Valley brand from Walmart. You may find it at other stores. Don't get the GNC brand since it is very "hot." Unlike me, most people on the board take it regularly with their meals. I take it as needed. You can ask other questions and also checking the archives.
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	jencee	Oct-30-06, 02:17 PM (CMT)
	15. "RE: cayenne"
	Bahman, Thank you so much for you quick reply. I did do a search for cayenne pepper, but did not come up with anything- maybe the posts were older. I am fairly new to this board and was not familiar with your history- but I am always happy to hear that people have found things that work for them- we are all looking for our "miracle", if not a "cure" at least something that helps us. I am always on the lookout for new things to try, since I have been dealing with this for 10 years now. Mine Migraines are a bit different- lasting from 3-8 days in duration, and leave me wiped out for days only to return sometimes within a week. I know what you mean- I always feel like a "migraine waiting to happen". That is interesting about the ulcers and the H. Pylori. Although never diagnosed with ulcers, I have great difficulty taking most preventatives - I get severe nausea & vomiting and burning in the pit of my stomach. I did do an internet search in the interem, and found some articles about cayenne & migraine, so I am definately going to give this a try. At least it is not expensive to try. Again, I thank you so much for taking the time to share your story and for sharing the information. Take Care, Jen
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	annabelle	Oct-31-06, 01:15 AM (CMT)
	18. "RE: cayenne"
	jenece - i have been having a look as well - there is heaps of information but this is probably the simplest i have come across...............well i'm going to give it a go - can't hurt any more than the headache.maybe the answer is a bowl of hot chilli soup!! http://www.knowledgeofhealth.com/pdfs/ocd1.pdf
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	annabelle	Oct-31-06, 06:58 AM (CMT)
	19. "RE: cayenne"
	bahman - well i dont know what to say to you. i have never heard of chillies being anything but delicious spices. after i saw your post i went looking all over the cyberspace and came across a site that talked about sniffing chilli/capsicum powder in very small doses into the nostril on the side of the head where the person has the headache. he went on to say how to do it, which i will keep to myself as i was experimenting and am not writing to advise people how to do it. i just wanted to let you know. my headache was so bad today after two weeks constant daily headache - i thought i would give anything a try. so i did. surprisingly all worked well - effortless - painless - bit of a watery nose for 10 mins and after 15 mins my headache went completely. i have the usual muscular-run soreness from my neck to the back of my head but thats nothing really, the actual headache went and that was approximately 5 hours ago. i would have to be the biggest cynic the world have ever met and i am just stunned by my bodily reaction. i will see how i go tomorrow as well..i spent the rest of the hours figuring out where to get capsicum tablets here in australia. in case any aussies are out there - they can be bought under the manufacturers name of Nature's Sunshine 100 capsules in a bottle and the strength is 475gms. they are not advertised for headaches - they are for dietary/abdominal use on the bottle - but i know better than that now!! cost is about $23.00 and both chemists and health food stores stock them - they have their own website and they can point you in the directions of your local supplier. big big thank you to bahman for at least five hours release to be a wife and friend for a change. regards annabelle
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	jencee	Oct-31-06, 09:52 AM (CMT)
	20. "RE: cayenne"
	Annabelle, I am so glad you found the information, and tried it out and it worked for You! Hurray! I do not have a migraine right now, or I would give it a try myself, but I'm going to buy the cayenne capsules on my next shopping trip, so I can have them on hand. I am also going to try taking them for prevention as Bahman has been doing and see what happens from there. It's so wonderful that we can help each other out- even if the information only helps a few of us- it's better than nothing. Jen.
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	Bahman	Oct-31-06, 12:03 PM (CMT)
	21. "RE: cayenne"
	I am so glad annabelle that cayenne helped you, even for a few hours. I'll cross my fingers! I buy 100 caps of "Cayenne fruit" from Walmart for $3! Even if it was $23, it would be worth it. (BTW, how much your $23 is in US dollars?) Jen, I hope that you'll have success with cayenne too. I have really been frustrated that so few people on this board were helped by it. Only two or three people reprted any degree of help and one (the5votes) who had better luck in the beginning reported that it only lasted several months. I myself have been using it successfully since July 1999. While I have been encouraging people to try it, I do NOT want to create "false hopes" either. Unfortunately, the percentage of people who can be helped seems to be very low.
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	jencee	Oct-31-06, 12:54 PM (CMT)
	22. "RE: cayenne"
	Bahman, As soon as I can go to Walmart, I'm going to get the cayenne. I have been through so many preventative meds, vitamins, herbs, supplements, Accupuncture, and now even Botox, and none, unfortunately proved very successful for me. At first botox seemed to help, but the last treatment has left me with neck pain and stiffness, and not too much reduction in migraines. I heard it is common for preventative meds to become ineffective over time. I guess it can also happen with supplements too. I think what happens is that the body becomes immune to it, and you get the migraines back. That can even happen with Botox treatments. It is wonderful that you continue to have success with it, and have not become immune to its working. I wish you continued success in the future! Jen
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	Bahman	Oct-31-06, 01:07 PM (CMT)
	23. "long-lasting?"
	Yes, for a while I was worried that cayenne's effect may wear out, but fortunately for me it didn't. In the years past, I had had temporary relief from lots of treatments including fasting, raw-eating diet, other special diets, chiropractice and accupuncture. The fact that cayenne's effectiveness has been virtually constant for 7 years leads me to speculate that capsaicin targets the root of my problem, whatever it is. But the fact that my stomach ulcer is also under control because of cayenne, leads me to believe that H. Pylori bacteria is my unseen enemy!!
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	annabelle	Oct-31-06, 04:22 PM (CMT)
	24. "RE: long-lasting?"
	hi bahman, thanx for the reply - the currency converts something like $23 australian dollars to $17.50 american dollars - still very expensive. the closest store we would have to walmart is k-mart which is not as sophisticated as walmart and i could not imagine them having anything more than the regular vitamin b and c and herbal shampoo and conditioner type goods. we have specialty health food stores or chemists that sell this type of thing. unfortunately here in australia you also get an earful of little chemist people (usually know-all kids) telling you what you can and cant use the drugs and vitamins for - i find their manner condescending and outright offensive - i take full responsibility for what i use things for and if i want to stick it in my ear i will if it helps!! - but i just say nothing and they shut up, difficult to get a response if the person isnt talking to you. you probably get that sort of thing in america as well - i think they just want to cover all the bases so they dont get sued for something. so i will keep you informed......... thanx again annabelle
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	lauriek	Nov-01-06, 09:40 AM (CMT)
	25. "Dr. Dzugan's book"
	With regard to Dr. Dzugan's book. I got it yesterday and am about 1/2 way through. Since the beginning of the year I have been reading everything I can find on bio-identical hormone replacement therapy. I have to say that I am loving his book! It is not a big, complicated, high fog level book. One thing that I've come to appreciate is that even though I have been doing BHRT (with some success in the beginnning), that this is not enough. He says that is like having 4 flat tires and fixing only 1 or 2. There are 4 areas that need to be balanced...Neurohormonal, Pineal gland, digestive system and magnesium balance. I hope that noone will get upset with me writing this. I just think that this is the best thing that has ever happened for us. I have been limping along trying to do it my way for long enough. I have 2 doctors that are willing to write me prescriptions for bioidentical hormones and I am hopeful that they will work with me and Dr. Dzugan's program. I am calling Dr. Dzugan's medical staff today to get started and I will be happy to report in again and let you know how it is going. If nothing else though, read this book. Please don't make a judgement until you do. Laurie
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	jrgood27	Nov-02-06, 04:41 PM (CMT)
	56. "RE: Dr. Dzugan's book"
	Hi Laurie, I definitely would be interested in how you're doing on the program. How are things going with your treatment so far? Jenny >Ihave 2 doctors that are >willing to write me prescriptions >for bioidentical hormones and I >am hopeful that they will >work with me and Dr. >Dzugan's program. I am >calling Dr. Dzugan's medical staff >today to get started and >I will be happy to >report in again and let >you know how it is >going. > Laurie
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	annabelle	Nov-01-06, 04:33 PM (CMT)
	31. "RE: cayenne"
	hi bahman got the RP yesterday and have started. i just wanted to know if you take your dose three times a day at meals?? (which is what i will do unless you advise otherwise). i have been doing some reading and everyone differs but i thought i would stick to what you do exactly as you have had the best results.....the only thing it looks like i have to cut out are the aspirin . RP also reacts with some heart medications but am not taking anything like that. surprisingly for a 'night-shade' plant it's side effect free. i also read tons of people are using it as a nasal spray for congestion. amazing! regards annabelle
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LTAYLOR	Nov-01-06, 11:14 AM (CMT)
26. "Cayenne"
LAST EDITED ON Nov-01-06 AT 10:23 PM (CMT) I am one of those few mentioned by Bahmann that has had success w/cayenne. I take a liquid herbal extract form along with ginger and a combo extract of echinacea & goldenseal (which I take as needed during cold & flu season or if I am sick) I have been taking these for several years now (5-6 I think) and they really work for me. Along with the pain relieving benefits this combo seems to have boosted my immune system and really helped my gastro/intestinal system. I have not been sick w/colds/sinus infections/flu in many years (knocking on wood!!!) and if I start to feel bad I will ramp up my dosage for a few days and I will not really get sick, maybe just feel run down for a day or two. I take two dropperfuls of each in a bit of warm water and slam it like a shot. I also often add green tea extract to the mix, but it seems to give me a headache (not a migraine, just a regular old headache) so I cut down on that one. I take this 2/day and then use the cayenne & ginger as needed for pain management. This is not all I take, this is just part of my regimen but the cayenne alone has reduced my pain considerably. I can take a larger dose to help me sleep - it really works, but you must have a pretty strong tummy - and now that I have been using the above I do. I also take mega doses of Magnesium. The brand is Mag Tab SR (I have posted on this many, many times so I will only repeat it briefly) this product is a sustained release form of Mg Lactate which is a better absorbed form of Mg. Many forms are used for their laxative properties because the body does not absorb them and they pass right through - and quick!! The Mag Tab SR dosing is pretty easy, you start out with 1 in the a.m. & 2 in the p.m. (take with a small 100 calorie snack - not a big meal) follow this for several days and the increase by 1 pill every week or so until the stools are comfortably soft. If you experience very loose stools, back off a pill or two until they are just comfortably soft again - which tells you that you are at an optimum dosage. I currently use 3 in the a.m. and 4 in the p.m., but I increase that if I am stressed, if "Aunt Flow" comes to town, fighting a bug, migraine etc... Additionally I take Mg Gluconate in liquid form during a migraine. I take 1-2 T every hour or so until the migraine is gone. Both of these can be ordered for you by your pharmacist and no prescription is needed. The Mag Tab has become harder to find, so I just order it direct from the Mfg. via the internet. Additional migraine supplementation information can be found at: <http://www.magnesiumresearchlab.com> Obviously if I am having one of my very, very bad ones none of this works because I tend to vomit every 3-5 minutes and cannot keep even a swallow of water down. Then it is off to the ER. I am currently exploring bioidentical hormone therapy for when the time comes, but thus far I have been able to regulate those pesky hormones a bit better by avoiding those really bad for you carbs (sugar, flour etc) it is amazing the difference eliminating sugar from your diet makes. I do not use sugar substitutes either...if I need to sweeten something I use pure maple syrup or the tiniest bit of good quality honey. Please remember we are all different and what works for me may not work for you. I still use prescription pain relievers as needed, but the need has decreased little by little each year as my knowledge and expirements grow. Also, there is a certain amount of discipline that required when trying any alternative methods, you really cannot do it half*ssed, I have found out the hard way....I am really lacking in the discipline but I have managed to complete a 6-8 week detox or two....not for migraines, just for all over well being, but it was hard. Good luck! Peace, L
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	jencee	Nov-01-06, 11:36 AM (CMT)
	27. "RE: Cayenne"
	LAST EDITED ON Nov-01-06 AT 12:05 PM (CMT) LTaylor, Thank you for an interesting post, and for sharing your regimen. I am happy that the cayenne pepper has been working for you- Is there any more benefit to taking it in a liquid extract form rather than capsules? Can you buy the liquid mag. gluconate over the counter or does it have to be ordered from the pharmacy? Also, when you said you take the liquid Mag. Gluconate- is that 1-2 teaspoons every hour for migraine pain or Tablespoons? Since you used a Capital T- I assumed you meant tablespoons, but just wanted to make sure- I am taking notes here- LOL. Oh, and do you supplement you diet with Calcium in addition to the magnesium? I heard that if you take to much Mag- your calcium levels get out of balance and you need to take both- do you take both? I agree with you on the discipline required with using alt./natural methods for migraines- sometimes it does involve so many different supplements, that it can be easy to forget- I find that I often need to write out a schedule, and look at that, or I guess you could use one of those pill reminder boxes too. Thanks, Jen
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	LTAYLOR	Nov-01-06, 01:26 PM (CMT)
	28. "RE: Cayenne"
	Tablespoons....sorry for the confusion. The Mg Gluconate, in my experience, has to be ordered by the pharmacist. It also comes in pill form, but I am lucky if I can keep the liquid down. I do take a calcium supplement as well, but I do not take them together. I think the website I listed goes into the hows & whys, but I don't remember. I don't think it matters which form of cayenne you take, I just got into the herbal extracts a few years ago and have stuck with them. An interesting point on Mg...there are some studies being conducted that may show that it is Mg that helps lessen bone density loss as opposed to calcium. Peace, L
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	jencee	Nov-01-06, 01:36 PM (CMT)
	29. "RE: Cayenne"
	LTaylor, Thanks for getting back to me on the specifics. Wow, that is certainly interesting regarding the Magnesium and bone density! Jen
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	Bahman	Nov-01-06, 04:28 PM (CMT)
	30. "discipline"
	Yes, discipline! I'm glad you people brought up the issue of discipline. Even for a single supplement that I need to take, discipline is critical. I have cayenne capsules avaiable everywhere. In the house of course, but also in my pocket and in my car. I have the powder also available for emergency times. For instance, occaisonally I wake up in the morning with an immediate need for cayenne! One shouldn't take it on empty stomach and there is hardly any time for a breakfast. So I swallow a mouthful of water with a pinch or two of cayenne in it for immediate effect. Then I take a capsul or two with breakfast. Here is an interesting episode. Our daughter also suffers from head and stomach problems and very likely inherited it from me. AND she also benefitss from cayenne. BUT she sometimes ends up in ER! She gives me all kind of excuses for it but I've always thought that lack of discipline was the culprit. For instance, she never had cayenne with her when I'd ask. So I've given up and have not interfered any more!!!
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	annabelle	Nov-01-06, 04:35 PM (CMT)
	32. "RE: discipline"
	hi bahman i just posted to you and lo and behold you have written about some of your ideas..........must be magic
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	Bahman	Nov-01-06, 04:53 PM (CMT)
	33. "RE: discipline"
	If it is practical for you to do what I do, I think it is the best way. Time is of essence -- even seconds. So, at the first sign of an impending symptom, take a capsul with water or a drink. Not on empty stomach. My early symptoms are lightheadedness, heavy eyes and the like.
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	jencee	Nov-01-06, 05:02 PM (CMT)
	34. "RE: discipline"
	I am going to buy this tomorrow, and start taking it immediately for prevention. (hopefully). I will take it will food of course, but I was just curious what would happen if you do not take it with food? Does it cause extreme nausea and stomach pain? Since it is a pepper, I would think it would really irritate the stomach if taken on an empty stomach. Jen
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	annabelle	Nov-01-06, 05:03 PM (CMT)
	35. "RE: discipline"